Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 01:08:15 -0500
From: Michael Grondin <mgrondin@tir.com>
To: crosstalk@info.harpercollins.com
Subject: Re: Original GThomas/"I'm your disciple"

Steve Davies writes:
> As Valentasis points out, one should notice that Thomas speaks
> in 1 lauding the sayings of Jesus and then in 13 refusing to give the
> sayings of Jesus.

All right, big guy - one last attempt to penetrate your stubborn,
irrational support of #14 with my impeccable logical defense of #61:

1. What else does #1 say? Something about "hidden words", maybe?
Something about "discovering" the meaning of the words? And this ain't
the only place we read about stuff that's "hidden", but which the text
promises WILL become manifest. So what's hidden about #14? Aside from
the fact that it's separated from its "brother" saying, it's right out
there in the open. My candidate, on the other hand, IS hidden. In fact,
it's so well hidden in #61 that most people assume that Salome is the
one saying it, in spite of (1) the glaring omission of what should be
its introductory phrase (something like "she said to him"), and (2) the
resumption of Jesus' speech as if nothing at all had been said to
interrupt it! Scribal error(s)? Coptic readers would have known better,
I think.

2. About #61 being halfway between #13 and #108: your one defense is to
say that maybe the numbering is a little bit off, but I think your main
counter here is your claim that the Copts just absolutely, positively
COULDN'T have been counting sayings like we do. I don't know as I would
be too sure about that if I were you - remember that saying about "60
per measure and 120 per measure"? If that don't make the hair prickle up
on the backa' yer neck, nothin' will.

Mike
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